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Action taken against alleged drones over Volkel air base (the Netherlands)

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Dutch Ministry of Defence Statement posted this statement today on their website (translated):

Defence took action on Friday evening after several drones were reportedly seen over Volkel Air Base between 19:00 and 21:00. The drones were observed by security personnel. Air Force personnel deployed weapons from the ground in an attempt to bring the drones down. The drones left the area and were not recovered.

After the report, the Royal Marechaussee and the police were notified. They are conducting further investigation. At this time, it is unclear why the drones were flying over or around the airbase. For security reasons, Defence is not providing additional information about how the drones were detected or which countermeasures were used.


Context / Notes

There is still very little clarity about what exactly happened. The Ministry did not specify how the objects were detected (visually or via sensors), nor what type of weapons were used (kinetic or non-kinetic). Since the incident took place in the dark, the nature of the observations is especially uncertain.

Defense Minister Ruben Brekelmans later said (source):

"In total, it lasted two hours. But that doesn't mean the drones were flying over the airbase for the entire two hours. Our current understanding is that five drones were first observed, and at a later moment that number had increased to ten. However, it was dark and visibility was poor. We have not yet been able to determine what type of drones they were. We are investigating this and hope to gain more clarity."

Around 20:00, a HEMS helicopter was flying in the area,

Source: https://x.com/StijnOerde/status/1992219636524281916?s=19

but the Ministry has ruled out that it was mistaken for a drone or drones.

A relevant comparison is the incident at Camp Borris (Denmark) on 28 September, where soldiers reportedly fired at a suspected drone (source). Subsequent analysis by @ThomasH suggested that the "drone" may in fact have been an overflying passenger aircraft.

For now, the key question is what other air traffic was in the vicinity of Volkel that evening. Further verification is needed before any conclusions can be drawn.

Last edited by a moderator: Today at 8:23 AM

This was just published by local news agency Omroep Brabant:

"The guards reportedly saw the drones with the naked eye, a Defence spokesperson confirmed. According to a spokesperson for the Royal Marechaussee, shots were fired at the drones."

For "drones" see Starlink, stars, helicopter navigation lights or anything else! A journalist needs to ask for a description, no one should be shooting at a drone unless it's close enough to see what it is and if it's a threat.

Around 20:00, a HEMS helicopter was flying in the area,

That's actually 21:00 local time, since it's 20:00 UTC.

Perhaps 19:00 local is probably the time to focus on, looking for the initiating event, we've seen that once a flap starts it can continue as more people looking continue to misinterpret what they are seeing.

Perhaps 19:00 local is probably the time to focus on, looking for the initiating event, we've seen that once a flap starts it can continue as more people looking continue to misinterpret what they are seeing.

Correct "the drones were spotted by security personnel between 7:00 PM (19:00) and 9:00 PM (21:00)"

Last edited: Today at 11:13 AM

Very busy airspace. Here's all the planes that flew nearby between 1800 and 1900 UTC (1900 and 2000 local CET)

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX9co7e4pHE

Oncoming planes, especially the larger ones, can be visible for many miles away. Certainly 50, sometimes 100

The sim is at 60x. Many of the planes would appear to be hovering.

We can't rule out drones, but really, they need to demonstrate how they ruled out planes.

Very busy airspace. Here's all the planes that flew nearby between 1800 and 1900 UTC (1900 and 2000 local CET)

We can't rule out drones, but really, they need to demonstrate how they ruled out planes.

I'm glad you did this, my head was spinning trying to think if the original helicopter idea stands, which it can't do as that's 20:00 UTC which would be 21:00 so your analysis at 18:00 hours would be 19:00 in the Netherlands, so will be correct...

Very busy airspace. Here's all the planes that flew nearby between 1800 and 1900 UTC (1900 and 2000 local CET)

Oncoming planes, especially the larger ones, can be visible for many miles away. Certainly 50, sometimes 100

The sim is at 60x. Many of the planes would appear to be hovering.

We can't rule out drones, but really, they need to demonstrate how they ruled out planes.

100% sure we will never see/hear of any evidence..

Our extremely competent (*cough*) minister of defence, Mr Brekelmans, says they were surely drones, so why doubt it? Of course I am being sarcastic here.

The departement of defense already said there was a trauma helicopter at the base. And that they ruled out that it was the helicopter. So according to the DoD it wasnt their helicopter.

The problem they are going to have is increasing boy/wolf syndrome.

When they've engaged the drones multiple times have nothing to show. What then? More shooting until someone's Cessna gets a bullet in it?

Aaaaand we have another one, again in the Netherlands:

https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/637690...hoven-airport-vliegverkeer-is-stilgelegd.html

External Quote:

By our news editors

22 Nov 2025 at 21:07Update: 15 minutes ago

Several drones have been spotted near Eindhoven Airport. As a result, air traffic to and from Eindhoven has been halted, caretaker Defense Minister Ruben Brekelmans reported on X . Eindhoven Airport is not only an airport, but also houses an air base on its grounds. Therefore, both civil and military air traffic have been suspended. According to the minister, "counter-drone assets from the Ministry of Defence" are ready to intervene, and police and the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee are on site. "Further investigation is ongoing, and we will take action where necessary," Brekelmans added.
A spokesperson for Eindhoven Airport confirms that no flights are currently departing or landing at the airport. According to the airport's website, planes scheduled to land in Eindhoven are being diverted to Brussels, Rotterdam, and Weeze (Germany). A flight from Eindhoven to Porto has also been delayed.
Signs at the airport reportedly stated: "Due to airspace disruptions, flights are delayed and cancellations may follow," Omroep Brabant reported.
Earlier on Saturday, it was reported that five to ten drones were sighted Friday evening over Volkel Air Force Base, approximately 30 kilometers from Eindhoven Airport. Air Force personnel attempted to shoot down the drones from the ground with weapons, but were unsuccessful. The objects flew away and have not been recovered since.

Aaaaand we have another one, again in the Netherlands:

https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/637690...hoven-airport-vliegverkeer-is-stilgelegd.html

External Quote:

By our news editors

22 Nov 2025 at 21:07Update: 15 minutes ago

Several drones have been spotted near Eindhoven Airport. As a result, air traffic to and from Eindhoven has been halted, caretaker Defense Minister Ruben Brekelmans reported on X . Eindhoven Airport is not only an airport, but also houses an air base on its grounds. Therefore, both civil and military air traffic have been suspended. According to the minister, "counter-drone assets from the Ministry of Defence" are ready to intervene, and police and the Royal Netherlands Marechaussee are on site. "Further investigation is ongoing, and we will take action where necessary," Brekelmans added.
A spokesperson for Eindhoven Airport confirms that no flights are currently departing or landing at the airport. According to the airport's website, planes scheduled to land in Eindhoven are being diverted to Brussels, Rotterdam, and Weeze (Germany). A flight from Eindhoven to Porto has also been delayed.
Signs at the airport reportedly stated: "Due to airspace disruptions, flights are delayed and cancellations may follow," Omroep Brabant reported.
Earlier on Saturday, it was reported that five to ten drones were sighted Friday evening over Volkel Air Force Base, approximately 30 kilometers from Eindhoven Airport. Air Force personnel attempted to shoot down the drones from the ground with weapons, but were unsuccessful. The objects flew away and have not been recovered since.

Does someone know what's UN or NATO stance on the probability of huge incompetence from the part of Netherlands' Department of Defense on this issue?

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