Martin Willis sits down in person with Lue Elizondo for a wide-ranging conversation about UAP disclosure and what may be happening behind the scenes in Washington. Elizondo reveals that he has returned to the Washington, D.C. area and says he is once again working for the U.S. government, although he cannot disclose his specific role. He discusses why some UAP information remains classified, his restrictions on discussing alleged crash-retrieval programs, and the long-rumored 23-minute UAP video, which he says isn’t the most compelling footage that exists. The conversation also covers NASA and unusual observations involving the Moon, historical UAP performance, Ross Coulthart’s recent claims about Elizondo, whether the government truly understands the phenomenon, and the possibility that humanity perceives only a tiny fraction of a much larger reality.

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